In an era when joint albums are becoming more and more common—from Kanye/Jay-Z to Drake/Future—there is only one that the people really want, and that’s the J.Cole and Kendrick Lamar collab.

Rumors of a collaborative project between the two has attained the status of urban legend. Dating back to 2011, when the two joined forces on K.Dot’s Section 80, fans have been fiending for the two to get in the studio together.<> at Madison Square Garden on January 28, 2014 in New York City.The first tease of the rumored album was an old YouTube clip from 2011, where we saw a young, clean shaven Kendrick and a skinny ScHool Boy Q (J.Cole wasn’t present) lip-singing lyrics to a song titled “Temptation” in front of a modest corner store, which, till this day has yet to see a mastered and official release.

Saving it for something special, maybe?

The chemistry between the two is straight-up undeniable. With similar revolutionary content and intricate rhyme schemes, it’s apparent the two see a bigger vision for a joint project that may take longer to come together than we’d like.

Fast forward to 8 months on ago when Cole and Kendrick both contributed scorching remixes to each other’s singles in what was named “Black Friday Freestyles,” where J.Cole literally played with our emotions, spitting:

“When you K.Dot shit drop? Bitch never. They can’t handle two black n***** this clever. But this February bet shit get scary when I fuck around and drop.”

Then the instrumental abruptly cuts off.

Well, earlier this week on the Rap Radar Podcast, Dreamville President Ibrahim Hamad didn’t help us get any closer to a release date.

When asked by co-host B.Dot about the project’s status he simply danced around the question:

“You know what? I will say that even when he said that, you know like, we kinda knew that was a stretch,” he explained. “Cole is Cole and he knows what he’s doing. He has his ways of getting things done and I think that at the end of it all, it’ll be way worth it. Whatever he had planned in February, whatever it is, it’ll be way more worth it if people just like, know that he, he’s kinda like a mad scientist with his thing. He’s like a little mad scientist.”

Yeah, no help at all.

They say good things come to those who wait; I guess we don’t have a choice.

Check out the full Rap Radar interview here: